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The ruling class– whether capitalist or communist– wants to control how many children you have. That’s all. Nothing more to see. It really is two sides of the same coin that is population control.

Your post falls into the trap of the natalist vs/ antinatalist binary. Leave this conversation with the assholes that started it and those who continue to mold global policy.

Whether or not people have kids should be the question of the person having them, within community of people who support them. Anything else is misogyny.

Human Breeding is a biological imperative that can be ignored because we’re the apes that ask questions.

Discussing human breeding in terms of moral imperatives– the natalism vs/ antinatalism binary– is a legacy of authoritarianism. In all its decadence, it amounts to a Marx vs. Malthus vs. Organized Religion circle jerk.

Some, though not all, of the most radical women have had kids. It’s just a statistic that most who can birth children will in their lifetime. To suggest that those who are on the front lines of any radical movement are the childfree is lofty, if at all ideal.

The other problem is that of all the childfree people I know– few of them are radical or ungovernable and several of them will likely end up having children, despite their childfree proclamations. To be fair, I can say this of the parents in my life too. I also give possible exception to those childfree who live with the necessity to be outspoken and radical in their existence because they’re Black, Indigenous, LGBTQ+ and/or other people of color/otherwise strategically undervalued. Their being radical effects others only so much in that them existing does, which is to say “somewhat”.

They are as consumed in their lives as the parents are, except potentially without the obligatory survival sense that comes with parenting (for better or worse). Again with exceptions, they are professionals in bullshit jobs– protected and driven by commerce, academia, and bureaucracy.

Ungovernable? Not really.

In an invasion, would any of them be making molotovs beside parents and their kiddos? Would they be throwing stones? Would they be fleeing? I hope whatever they’re doing, it isn’t freezing and fawning. As you note, many families already do. As the childfree are a growing population, let’s hope they don’t.

Everyone is governable when a knife is at their throat. Unless they have skill, community, luck and the fortune of timing.

The more arguments are made about whether people should or shouldn’t do whatever they can do with their bodies and their lives, the more schizmogenesis. The less fostering community in any effective way. The more governable we will all be and the more things are going to stay the same.